Documenters: Paris Township Trustees meeting for May 15, 2025

Paris Township Trustees Regular Meeting
May 15, 2025
6 p.m.
Shearer Community Center
9355 Newton Falls Rd.
Ravenna, OH

Attendance:
Trustees Dave Kemble, Dorene Spicer, Ed Samec
Fiscal Officer Linda Shaulis
Road Supervisor Fred Shaulis
Zoning Inspector Dave Duncan
Portage County Commissioner Jill Crawford

Summary
The trustees passed a motion to approve the use of $2,750 for tree maintenance work on McClain Road, to be completed after the school year ends.

Trustee Dorene Spicer has resolved the issue where calls for emergency services were going directly to herself and the fire chief’s phones. She is still working to resolve problems with faxes not being delivered properly.

A Memorial Day service will be held at 1 p.m. on May 25 at the Hawley Cemetery.

At the suggestion of Road Supervisor Fred Shaulis, the trustees agreed to gather information and look into the possibility of financing a new front end loader for the township.

The trustees have been in contact with Spectrum regarding minor property damage caused by their work, and they will be speaking to a representative from the company to make sure Spectrum sends employees to repair the damage.

Trustee Ed Samec will be attending a meeting on May 28 to learn more about the proposed fire district that would combine the resources of several municipalities into one larger fire department, if created.

There are two ongoing issues with Hawley Cemetery. The property needs to be weeded, mowed and made to look nice before Memorial Day. The township will either hire a landscaping company to fix it up, or they may have a work day with the fire department to take care of it themselves. Fred Shaulis also recommended the trustees write a letter to companies that sell grave monuments to inform them that they will not accept headstones that cannot be secured in concrete. These markers could get stolen or knocked out of place by maintenance equipment.

Documenter’s Notes

Jill Crawford, who began her first term as a Portage County Commissioner this January, attended the meeting to introduce herself to the trustees. She has been attending meetings throughout the county to get to know other local elected officials and let them know they can contact her at any time.

Trustee Ed Samec thanked her for attending and thanked the commissioners for establishing a police week.

Road Supervisor Report – Fred Shaulis
Fred Shaulis has been getting quotes for tree work on McClain Road to remove several hanging branches. The trustees passed a motion to approve a payment of $2,750 to Bickel’s Tree Service for this work. The company will be instructed not to do the job until after the school year ends to avoid any traffic issues.

Fred Shaulis also brought up purchasing a new front end loader for the township from Ag-Pro. They currently cost $151,135, but Fred Shaulis explained that the price will continue rising, so they should buy one now. The purchase would be financed over the next several years. Fiscal Officer Linda Shaulis and Trustee Dave Kemble agreed to go to Ag-Pro to talk to a salesman about purchasing one.

Trustee Reports
Kemble, Zoning Inspector Dave Duncan and the Regional Planning Commission have been working with a property owner to get the proper permits to build a double wide trailer on their land. A survey still needs to be done before a zoning permit can be issued.

Dorene Spicer contacted Spectrum about the issue where emergency phone calls were going straight to the phones of herself and Fire Chief Derek Reed, and the issue has been resolved. There are still issues with the faxes being sent to email instead of the Paris Township Fire Department’s fax machine; Spicer is working with RingCentral to solve these, as well.

Spicer suggested that the township begin looking for a new flag pole next year. The current pole needs to be tipped back. Spicer will find out what different companies are charging for flag poles.

The Portage County engineer informed the township of a resident complaint about a pothole on Newton Falls Road, but the trustees informed him that the street was in Newton Falls’ jurisdiction.

Trustees have been made aware of property damage caused by Spectrum. Workers dug a hole on one property, did not fill it in and left wires in the hole. Another resident claimed a sinkhole in their driveway was caused by Spectrum. Spicer had printed photos of the damaged properties and will be working with Spectrum to get them to send another crew to repair any damage they caused.

Portage County is holding a township seminar for any interested township employees. Paris Township trustees and staff were invited to attend.

A Memorial Day service will be held at 1 p.m. on May 25 at the Hawley Cemetery.

Zoning Inspector – Dave Duncan

Duncan had a pending application for a zoning permit from a property owner who wants to construct a pole barn on their land.

Fire Chief’s Report

Reed was not present, so the update was provided by Samec. The department would like to spend $1,700 to send one of their firefighters to a program for training.

Fiscal Officer’s Report – Linda Shaulis
Linda Shaulis spent several hours trying to get in contact with Brightspeed to cancel their old phone account since moving to another company. It took several hours of being on hold, but she managed to cancel the account. The phone bill paid at the May 15 meeting was the last that the township will receive from Brightspeed.

Samec informed the trustees that another cemetery plot has been sold, the deed has been signed, and the foundations have been dug and poured.

Samec also said he will be attending a meeting on May 28 to learn more about the proposed fire district that would combine the fire departments of several municipalities into one district.

Fred Shaulis said the township needs to write a letter to send to companies that sell grave monuments to inform them that their cemetery cannot accept certain headstones. Some models have nothing securing them into the ground, which puts them at risk of being stolen or knocked out of place by maintenance equipment. Fred Shaulis said they need to explain to these companies that every headstone must be anchored in the concrete, and they will no longer accept markers that cannot be anchored.

Linda Shaulis and Spicer replaced the flags and cleaned up some weeds at the cemetery, but there is more work that needs to be done. Linda Shaulis suggested hiring a company for a one-time cleaning before Memorial Day. Samec added that he has received several phone complaints about the condition of the cemetery. Duncan suggested working with the fire department employees for a day to clean it up.

Samec said the Portage County Sheriff’s Office requested that Paris Township cut the grass on the side of the roads to make the trash pick-up program easier. Fred Shaulis explained that they cannot mow the grass until rabbit nesting season has ended.

The trustees passed a motion to pay the bills and adjourned the meeting.

Transcript

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Speaker 1 00:07
Alright, Mr. Sheets, we’ll start with you. Alright. Well, thanks for coming. Moving on. Jill, you have

Speaker 2 00:19
the floor. Oh, hello. Um, hi. I’m Joe Crawford. I am one of your three county commissioners. I just took office in January, so I’m just going around and introducing myself to everybody to move my contact information. If you need anything, please contact me. If I can’t help you, I can try to get you in contact with whoever could help you. So very good. Well, we

00:41
appreciate you coming up, sure, and you’re welcome anytime.

00:43
Alright. Well, thank you. I appreciate

Speaker 3 00:46
that. So you’re in with the geyser to the county building or

Speaker 2 00:49
Yes. So there’s three commissioners, Mike tenlon, myself, and Sabrina Ben. So yes, yeah, we’re at the county building, and she’s new, I’m new, yeah, four months

01:02
in, and she’s still there.

Speaker 1 01:05
Just saw your picture. You and the other Commissioners established Police Week. Yes, National Police

Speaker 2 01:11
Week. Yeah, absolutely. And if you have a chance, it’s, it’s kind of kind of bad timing, if you will. But we have the county administration. We have blue lights at night. So that looks really nice. But with the long days we don’t really get to see it. Appreciate it this month. But yeah, thanks so much. Yeah, okay. Does anybody

01:29
have anything for Jill or Thank you? We’ll move on to Fred.

01:33
Oh, she missed her. No, we’ll get her now. Okay, we’ll go right down the line. I might take a while. How

01:42
long are you here for the

01:43
whole meeting? I’m with the newspaper.

01:45
Oh, okay. Oh, great.

01:48
Which paper you with? Portager

Speaker 3 01:53
Julian Sands is coming back after Memorial, so they’ll be parking all their equipment out here again. Okay? Those those swamp trees,

02:04
yeah,

02:07
just for the 225 project. Yeah,

Speaker 3 02:20
to anyways, two of them, one’s already moved enough that it’s hang up on a tree, you know, it come down straight on the road, and the other one’s moved about four feet over the road since the winter. I got one other prize from Weimer enterprise, which is out of courtroom. He was 3200 so I threw his out.

02:47
And this is y, M, E R, yeah,

02:50
W, i e m, e

Speaker 4 02:51
r, enterprise, I’m sorry, W, i e m, e r, yeah. If you

Speaker 3 03:00
want to look at them, the only two that’s got signs posted on them saying no trespassing. You can see the one that’s already hanging up on another tree. They’re going to fall. Oh, yes, yeah, yup, they were. They’ve been moving. I’ve been watching them for the last couple years. Yeah, this year they were removed.

Speaker 5 03:19
So if you’re coming from a clinicsburg, and you get down into the small beer is, are they on the left

Speaker 3 03:23
or the right south side? So you can’t, you can’t miss them, because the only ones that are shading the road now, and they have posted signs on both of them. So this Institute’s coming. That needs to be dropped when I will

Speaker 1 03:41
make the motion to go with pickles tree service for the quoted amount of $2,750 for the tree maintenance on the plane.

04:02
Yes, Dave, yes,

04:04
yes.

04:06
When school is ending, June 4 is last days.

Speaker 3 04:17
Well, I don’t want them guys closing the road to work down there. I think it’s

04:21
the fourth the dope. The little

Speaker 5 04:24
kids get out two days early. I think the third so I think it is the fifth one or kindergarten through five, they’re letting out two days earlier. My granddaughter is in there start

04:39
the second week in June. They’ll be okay.

Speaker 3 04:42
Well, he said he could do it. Since it’s so wet they can’t get into these other places, he could do it right away. But I told him he’d have to wait for school to let out or the busses to quit running by around 830 Yeah, and he said that where he’s at in Portland, those kids are already out. You.

05:00
Oh, really, yeah, out for the summer. That’s what he said.

05:03
Where’s Bickle? Out of cool?

Speaker 3 05:07
No, the other one’s out of Niles. Weimer, enterprise, alright?

05:16
Anything else for us? Fred, yeah. I

Speaker 3 05:26
I wanted to see if we could swing this swing this year.

05:37
That’s our whole budget.

Speaker 3 05:42
Oh, if we can finance it, like we did the big truck machine we have, then we need to take the rocks off and repair all the floor. What is this compact?

Speaker 1 05:55
That’s what it looks like. I

Speaker 3 06:11
out. That’s what AC and the guy’s got the camera on it. This one doesn’t show cabinets, the rocks.

06:22
And no no

06:25
riders. Is this?

06:28
Who’s this? Through

Speaker 1 06:30
ag Pro, ag Pro. And that’s the Yeah, that’s statehood. Yeah, that’s state price. State, good price, right?

Speaker 3 06:36
Yeah, they took it was 151, 535, record price. Well, two years ago, when I was looking after was only like one 127 or 130 would have gone up that much. Yeah, next year they probably need like 170 something. And after that, it’s going to keep keep on rising.

Speaker 1 06:58
Now is this big enough to suit you and Tom’s needs. Oh yeah, the township. And

Speaker 3 07:04
then it has the attachment on that we can use the folks we already have with the sketchbook, okay, so I can actually load this up with it, or go after a tree that’s on the road and pick it up and move it with this thing. I so.

07:24
And then with Are you looking to keep the other one? Yeah,

Speaker 3 07:28
cuz, like, I, like, I was showing you, without the backhoe that we have that big hole, we can’t smash the back the things down, no, if we have any size pipe that has to be replaced across the road, that little mini is not going to pick up a big chunk of pipe or big depth we may need. And it’s paid for itself. I mean, it’s a 1990 Yeah, it’s, yeah, there’s it just 100 bucks and complex the floor, yeah, I want to tear it in apart, and then not have a load, not have

07:58
one. Something happened now with the financing through John Deere, is it we would just go down to AG Pro and do the fire? Yeah,

Speaker 3 08:10
one of the choices would I go down and talk to sales guys, which Ben was the one, I was in on this

08:19
one. So did we do that. Can we do it? How long do you finance for? I

Speaker 3 08:26
have no idea. I don’t remember what we’re doing with truck. When we bought it, I

08:31
went around, what 5000

08:39
What’s that our payments? What 25,000

Speaker 4 08:43
for a year. Wait maybe, yeah, there’s

08:46
one payment a year, yeah, just stretching it out over over five years.

08:58
Right Road, Ridge, correct.

Speaker 4 09:02
Yeah. But you gotta remember, we’ve got so they’ll have to finish up

Speaker 6 09:05
12 to get the 12 left on it.

Speaker 4 09:10
I don’t know what’s left on it. You asked how much was left in the cares money? How much? I have no idea what

09:20
that’s I think the cares

09:24
is for them.

09:25
Yeah, we use

Speaker 4 09:29
that to buy no not just saying to do the three. I don’t know what that’s going to cost between the two 400,000 in there. So

09:40
it’s 400,000 in there, and you’ll be getting

09:44
more over the five years,

09:48
and just 25

09:51
we put something down on it, or

Speaker 4 09:54
kids could do whatever you want. You just gotta tell me. You guys tell me what

Speaker 3 09:57
to do. Well, they’d have to tell. To a sales guy at first. I think that’s

Speaker 4 10:02
the best thing on this, me and whomever, and see what they have, what they have to offer, interest wise, what they have to offer, payment wise, what they have to offer. You know, all of that, I think that’s it. Next step

Speaker 7 10:14
would be, I would go with you. Okay, you know, I wouldn’t mind seeing the process. What I said, I’m off tomorrow.

Speaker 3 10:21
Right right down on our agency, Ben, yeah, it’s right here.

10:26
Ben knows who I am, unfortunately, yeah,

10:30
Ben has been there for years, right? Okay, he’s a manager now. Does that

10:42
take Walsh to does that

Speaker 7 10:49
take 12th Street all the way down seat belt? I mean, if that’s your time off, then you just tell me when and I’ll be ready When’s good for you? Anything? Pretty much, I don’t

Speaker 4 11:06
think I have nothing tomorrow. What

Speaker 7 11:11
is text me and let me know. Okay, I’m free tomorrow. Yeah, early. If you want to go,

Speaker 4 11:20
we’d like to get down there early, yeah, definitely. Are we bringing the information back then and then we decided the next meeting? Yeah, yeah, we can

11:30
do that.

11:32
We can have the whole thing

11:38
in place. We have to be approved.

11:42
Okay? So anything

Speaker 1 11:44
else? Everybody have anything for Fred? I just want

Speaker 5 11:48
to thank Tom and Fred for fixing the backstop for the ball teams. Very good. Yes,

11:53
thank you. You’re welcome,

Speaker 5 11:57
alright? And also getting a cord for the refrigerator.

12:01
I got that fixed. Very good.

12:05
Alright,

12:09
anything you’d like to share? Oh, just listening.

12:15
Beth, yeah. So

Speaker 1 12:16
are you here with an internship? Are you here just collecting information?

Speaker 8 12:20
It’s a part time freelance thing. I work full time in Cleveland, but I just do this on the side because I used to be a news reporter, broadcast TV news reporter, and now I’m not, yeah, so now I just do this kind of for fun. What do you do in Cleveland? Same, same type of work. I work at a nonprofit, doing fundraising. Good for

Speaker 1 12:38
you, yeah, good for you. That’s a fantastic thing. And then,

Speaker 8 12:41
if I may, what kind of machine is this here? Just for my notes, front end loader. That’s what it’s called, okay, compact loader. Okay. I

13:03
Yeah, it is

13:06
Okay, moving on. We’ll go to I

Speaker 7 13:11
have nothing I think me and Dave are both working with the neighbor on, am I stealing your thunder? Nope, okay, working with the neighbor on the one that contacted you, and they’ve come up with a plan that will work. Oh, they did for us in Yeah. What plan this would be? Give the address on Griffith Road, 90 845, Griffith road. This would be the people that wanted to put out double wide. And what they’ve decided to do, they went to regional planning, and what, what’s her name? Gosh, I forgot to see her every month.

Speaker 3 13:47
I didn’t, couldn’t find my stuff because we’ve been moving. She’s up

Speaker 7 13:53
with regional planning. And she said, why about we do this? That we section off? And they must have decided five acres, and they would still leave that land in their name and then put the double wide on it, and for me and Dave, that’s gonna

Speaker 6 14:08
have a new Yeah, it’ll be a new line.

Speaker 7 14:14
Very good. So we’re glad here. Yeah, yeah. Well, we’ll see. We’ll see it’s done. That’s still a long road to go down with

Speaker 6 14:23
her. Tomorrow. She’s going to give me the droline to sign off on, and she’ll take that back. And then they’ll get the surveyor out survey the five acres. And then once they do that, then I’ll sign the paperwork for the divide, or whatever they call it. Once that’s done, then I’ll issue her the zoning permit to put the double wide on, and then she can get her building permit and do all that from there on.

14:53
So hopefully

14:55
for them, yeah, we’ve put a lot of hours

14:57
you guys have. Yeah, I’m glad it worked out.

15:01
I think that’s all that I got. Thanks, Dave. Does anybody have anything

Speaker 3 15:08
for Dave? Alright, thanks, Dave. Doreen, how’d you get this to go to cool? Hit

15:13
that home button. I

15:24
Oh, in here.

Speaker 3 15:34
Why do you get to change temperature? It doesn’t work.

Speaker 9 15:41
You work

15:50
74 that’s why

Speaker 5 15:54
you said that would be over. It’s good. Let me see if it’s right here. Wait till after the meeting. I

16:06
it

Speaker 5 16:12
works, so I contacted Matthew nyheisel from spectrum, because the emergency calls we’re going to the chief and myself, so we got somebody on the line, Matthew and I, and

16:29
he fixed it good.

Speaker 5 16:32
But Derek’s still having fax problems because they’re going to an email. So there’s a call on Monday at four with Derek and Matthew and someone from Ring Central to get that straightened out. Good Ben,

Speaker 7 16:53
we’ve been changing over our phone system for about two months. We decided to go with something else we depend on the fire department over there. A lot of our our messages from dispatch are faxed to us. So now it sort of creates a because normally, like, you go out on a call, you finish it, and two minutes later, after you’re back in the station, then the fax comes through and invest all of the times and and and what you did, we need that for reporting. Well, now it sort of goes to an email. And so when we come back from a call, we gotta figure out, or call Derek, the chief, and say, and bring that information, get it off of so we’re trying to get it fixed with them. That just comes like facts that it’s supposed to Oh, so just to clear that up, thanks. So you weren’t like,

Speaker 5 17:46
okay, Mike was having trouble getting into the program for the LED three. Well, that’s the company, the sign up front. He figured that out. Troy came out and had to change a module, which I signed the paper for that, and then the bill was sent to Linda, so that’s fixed. So that little dots on the fire side, if you can get this. And what do we think about the flag pole down there? I mean, that has to be like pulled down in the cemetery, the big one, I put the flags up on the other. It has to be like tipped back. Steve helped us before with his front end letter, I got some braces for but I don’t know. 25 foot is $3,600 they’re expensive. 30 inch is 4130 30 feet, 30, yeah, 30 feet is 4100 then there’s a 35 foot. That’s 2895 I mean, we can think about it, but they just do like the other ones. You hook em. There’s no rope, there’s no

Speaker 1 18:56
meeting with Tom. Lowered that flag. Well, me with Tom, lowered that flagpole out there. Yeah,

19:02
with a laugh, yeah, and

Speaker 1 19:03
we held it and walked it, walked it. And I was

19:07
not slaves. When you said

19:10
it was 28 it’s not 28 what is

19:14
it? 30? What’s the maximum? How much

Speaker 5 19:17
is it? I think that the front cut off. Linda, see those two front there at the top, then it starts again. Well, it’s

Speaker 1 19:25
a height of a building, my flagpole. What did Tom say? It was 30 I put

19:31
three foot. Sorry, what he

19:39
said? Plus, you need so many feet in the

19:46
ground? Yeah,

Speaker 5 19:47
there’s a What did you do with the other ones that you put some matter there’s a sleeve that locks. We

Speaker 3 19:56
had to make extensions only one or something. It’s a short number

20:00
that’s like sleeves then,

20:06
not sure,

20:09
look at the top one set aluminum

20:16
that’s wild,

Speaker 5 20:19
commercial flag poles, he says the ropes need changed and the clips wear out.

20:25
Well, we just did that when

20:28
we were down

Speaker 5 20:29
there. Let’s kind of look for like next year, see what we can

Speaker 3 20:33
do that. Yeah, because that pool is about ready to come apart too.

Speaker 1 20:37
Yeah. I think that was some kind of material with Steve. Did Steve get that? Or did you get that from the machine shop? Some kind of material that’s supposed to

Speaker 4 20:50
last a long time now, though, so that we get it in place next year, right? Do it this year? Here’s I’m saying. We don’t We didn’t make a decision tonight. But

Speaker 5 21:04
yeah, so we got the company we have, but there’s other companies also. I can kind of

Speaker 1 21:08
contest again two weeks, and then these are the ones with the internal string method that has the weight on right, like the school houses, have a lot of the school houses and hospitals.

21:20
What’s down there is, you bring it down.

Speaker 1 21:23
But these, these newer ones, there’s line and everything’s inside, stuff that’s on em. Okay, cuz Tom sent me up the flag store Newberry to get, he wanted me to get something, and

21:35
it was totally right

21:37
and everything, and he couldn’t use that right? I

Speaker 4 21:40
think it’s a good idea. So I’m going to put the highest price on us to the 35 foot and the 40 foot. Just see what,

Speaker 5 21:48
what kind of maximum height of the building is, 35

Speaker 3 21:51
feet, maybe from natural grade. I don’t see anything about flag poultry.

21:58
You flag poultry.

Speaker 5 22:05
Mike Collins from Portage County engineer, had got a complaint from Nick Mullen Allen resident, it’s it’s potholes down there. But in 1994 there was an agreement that Harris does from Gilbert east to bright bald one that she’s bright Baldwin to Ravenna Road, Newton Falls room. Newton Falls takes care of that. So she didn’t know about voting for the issue too. So I called, left a message. I She said that was chip and sealed on Gilbert. I told her that was a rumor. Road juice maintenance, Ohio, Edison paid for that, and I did call the Doreen lutes Newton township trustee for issue two, which is due by the 23rd so there’s no way this year that I didn’t know about us both splitting that at some point, and she the next couple times, they’ve already got plans. They only have one meeting a month, and I think it’s maybe the 26th I’m not sure. So I just told the lady, there’s no way of this close, that we can do something like that. Do issue too, but, but it’s split, and that’s theirs. That’s what falls is responsibility for

23:25
plowing. Yeah, right,

23:27
and Doreen

Speaker 5 23:28
was going to call my call out, get that, take care. We also have damage from spectrum. This is a 10,001 Newton Falls Road. I was down there today and enjoyed this. To my attention, I contacted, have to look at his name, Dan, I think McCaffrey McCafferty. This is the one they left this. Dug a hole and left this there. Didn’t fill it in. They came down. Said they don’t have any lids for this. This is what it looks like without the lid wires and everything next door. They said they had sink holes. It looks to me like they have a dip in their drive. It’s not a sinkhole. I can show you the picture. I don’t copy it. Then she informed me of 10183, also had trouble. This is in this lady’s yard. She’s on the corner of Holcomb and Newton Falls Road. She has Newton Falls Road. Here’s this. And when I took it close, it is filled with water. So when I sent the email off, I got one right back. He’s out till the 19th, so I’m going to send these pictures to him and see if he can get that handled for those residents. Didn’t want to. He left a number of another gentleman. I don’t want to get somebody else involved, but he’s already handling it. So we can wait a couple of days. So. Dan and

25:07
then next door, Preston.

25:22
No, I don’t know.

25:25
No Sarah, I’d have to look

25:34
up her name was

Speaker 5 25:37
that other address, nine, nine, Project Supervisor Daniel McCafferty, MC, C, A, F, F, E, R, T, Y, and that’s the gentleman that’ll be out. So I’ll get these pictures to him. Someone was out there this morning and

Speaker 4 26:00
got a hold of me, because the Preston and Cathy are the two people who complained,

Speaker 5 26:05
yeah, yes, and then she is for me, the Lady

26:16
press’s address is like, 9909,

26:20
or something.

26:22
They’re dry. Driveway is sinking at the bottom. But

26:27
who lives at the 10183 then 10183 I don’t know. She said, 11183,

26:36
what was that one? They said, from? They think

Speaker 5 26:38
it’s from 10183 sinking at the door. He said, it’s not

26:42
easy. When

26:51
they called, when they pour under, oh,

Speaker 3 26:55
it’s, it’s only Yeah, two and a half three inch at the most. I didn’t even think

Speaker 5 27:02
it was at it’s Eric, it’s Sarah Davis. Cassie took me to Sarah Davis’s 101 83

Speaker 3 27:11
we’re running that orange tube, which is two inch. Yeah. So, I mean, so they got out big enough. It goes, when they do the board goes for Woodville.

Speaker 7 27:22
That’s why that’s in there too. So there really isn’t much room for anything to collapse, right?

27:28
Dan came out, or he’s

Speaker 5 27:30
coming out too. Everything’s over. That stuff was done in the falls,

Speaker 7 27:35
yeah, too close to the end of the shift. This thing you handed out,

27:39
you just received this? Yes,

Speaker 4 27:43
I just forgotten you guys. Know, do you know that the I gave him a person for

Speaker 5 27:48
failing septic on April, then this came through, and I Dan had me send this Portage County prosecuting attorney does a township seminar because zoning, I did send it to Dan’s members. I haven’t heard anything you have to reply to Chris Madurai, by June 15, I can give you a

28:14
copy Open Meeting. Zach

Speaker 5 28:15
general questions, township overview. Anybody wants to go? Let Chris know you guys go.

Speaker 1 28:22
Yeah, I saw that email yet. Okay, zoning, fiscal officers, it’s like a legal update type thing.

Speaker 5 28:35
It’s held at the UCOM 14th, nine to June. Dorset,

28:41
do you go to that?

Speaker 6 28:48
I went and set my

Speaker 5 29:22
Memorial Day observance is May 25 at one o’clock at Holly cemetery. Anyone would

29:35
like to come to

Speaker 5 29:37
that? And that’s all I have. But then Dan, I’m going to report for Dan for zoning. Dan said the book is done. Kara needs to type it out and slash out old and put in new. Get it up to Todd Pete’s at regional planning. He’ll look at OH. Or he’ll retype it, get it back to them, and they have to look it over again, but, but it’s done. So he asked for me to get that.

Speaker 1 30:12
I think that’s all I have. Thank you. Does anybody have anything for Noreen, yeah, Where’s Dan? Dave Duncan zoning, so we covered the

Speaker 3 30:27
Griffith road already. Okay? That’s starting to move along. Did a zoning permit for 9906, Mignon road that

30:38
was to put up whole barn, whole Building, and

30:50
40 by 60 by 14. Picture of the

Speaker 3 31:00
a picture of property and some

Speaker 1 31:05
money. Very good. Thanks. Dan, anybody have anything for Dave? Alright, Chief absent. He gave us his report. He has a tax of personal response numbers for the quarter on the back page, this is we need to look into the current township call system. I’m getting people calling me at all times of the day to report emergencies which don’t need to report it on still,

Speaker 5 31:36
right? It’s right there. Brian, I

Speaker 1 31:43
know I got him hanging here too. He said you would like to request sending Bailey furnish to firefighter one program at Mahoney County Career Center. It cost us 1700 the class is scheduled to start August, 20. And he did sign a degree training and for staffing period for 15 days, we were staffed two personnel. Once staffed with one person, zero, unstaffed, 14 days and apparatus, nothing to look

32:19
for. Does anybody have the Baileys thing? Yeah, we signed

32:26
it. Does anybody

32:29
have anything to bring up for fire? We’ll move on to Linda.

Speaker 4 32:39
Right? Steve Ed tried. I tried for two days to get a hold of them, to cancel the funds and to figure out I got like, seven bills in the mail, over $1,000 saying that we are here. Ed couldn’t get a hold of him. I couldn’t get a hold of him. I mean, this is like being on hold for hours. So I finally acted like I wanted to pay my bill, and I said I needed to speak to a representative. Yes, I got somebody. Instantly couldn’t speak English, but I got somebody so bright speed is canceled that should be the last bill we get, the one we’re paying tonight. So just so you guys know that cemetery fee for lots Yeah, well,

33:33
I tried that once, when I called and

Speaker 6 33:35
hung up on that was horrible. Yeah,

Speaker 1 33:38
I have never seen customer service that bad before in my life. If you want to buy something or add something, they’ll answer. If you want to inquire about your existing account, they will not answer.

Speaker 4 33:51
Literally, the bill. I says, I need to know how much we owe. I says I got about nine bills in front of me. I said that I know. I don’t know. Well, here they build for February, March, April and May. Everybody. He says, Let me check you owe $200 that’s fine.

34:15
Okay, I would like to

34:18
cancel our services. Oh, okay.

Speaker 7 34:25
Somebody’s bought a plot at our cemetery. So that’s the D for the little piece of property. Does anybody

34:35
witness, Fred, would you witness?

34:37
Anybody have anything for Linda? Linda, okay.

34:46
We So one

Speaker 1 34:49
great cemetery, which we just signed the dean, and this phase of the foundations are Doug and poured. Okay, thank you, Fred and Tom. PM, and I will be attending the fire district meeting on the 28th

35:06
at 6pm in Edinburgh.

35:14
That’ll be on the 28th and I have

Speaker 3 35:19
nothing else. So what we need to change down there, we had, this is our second one, the foot, foot marker. It’s not a marker. We have to dig it down and below be below grade grass, grade four and a half, four and a half to five inches for them to bring out a slab to set on top of concrete. So now I’ve got this big hole waiting for them to drop this thing off. They don’t throw back in around it. This thing moves, yeah, because there’s nothing to stop it holding it,

35:55
yeah, I see that’ll be very problematic. Well,

Speaker 3 35:58
we need to nip it in the button out, because we’ve only got one down in the south section, yeah, the old section, and they’ve got two in it, yeah. And then when those guys move, they get turned and moved around and turned up, because only four inches thick, sitting on concrete and dirt. So it’s not a placard

36:20
like the market for military right,

Speaker 3 36:22
that we can anchor it in the concrete. We need to say, No, you cannot do this. I agree. Okay, so we need to write up something to send to these people, all the monument people, let them know that we’re not doing this.

Speaker 7 36:38
No more. Yeah, are all the monument people have that in there? Do they have that? Or is it? No, we could remember. I was wondering where it was coming from. Just one of them that are trying to sell that now. Well,

Speaker 3 36:51
no, there’s two now, because this, this was for his Marvel grant at this time. Last time it was Warren marble. Warren did the two little

36:59
ones, the two boys in the back, yeah,

37:01
and they don’t. They don’t let us know we’re a little

37:05
confused. Yeah, yeah.

37:09
They’re, they’re bringing something additional.

Speaker 7 37:11
They’re, they’re telling us to pour it this far underground, right? So they can lay this thing on top, so

Speaker 1 37:16
they can put a stone on top, in the ground, and there’s nothing wrong that

Speaker 3 37:22
in the ground? Yeah, I don’t know. We’re going to run equipment. We’re running trucks. We’re running

Speaker 7 37:34
down another grave in or something. Yeah, we could slide it so I

Speaker 1 37:39
don’t know. The military markers have pins in the back right. And once Tom and Fred pour, I mean, those are put in right, and they’re anchored there so

Speaker 3 37:47
they can’t move, and they’re in solid concrete. Yeah, these things are just floating

Speaker 1 37:52
right. It’s just a a block laying on top of call you, if you lay a block right here, this why? Yeah,

Speaker 4 37:57
on top of that. Then, yeah, yeah, we’re running over all

38:01
that, and it moves.

Speaker 1 38:04
And they, I mean, we can buy rain held water too, well, low grade.

Speaker 7 38:10
I wonder what they’re calling them, so that we can put

Speaker 1 38:15
our, well, they put this. We thought, well, that’s what I had called because we fit foot marker. Normally, foot marker is the bronze plaques for the for the military people, right? I mean, we call them back and tell her, Hey, we don’t want those. We’re

38:31
good in here. We will, well, we need

Speaker 3 38:34
to send a letter to him stating that we do not, will not take this type of marker. No more.

Speaker 1 38:41
I think we need to have something, yeah, maybe worded to where every marker needs to be anchored in the concrete, something like that, along those lines, right?

Speaker 7 38:52
Somebody goes there, then they’re just not showing them that kind of a of a marker. You know what I mean? Well,

Speaker 3 38:59
maybe other cemeteries do that, but we’re not doing that because it’s in the our ropes, in our when we get a track so right, those things could get twisted up, and then who’s going to resettle? I’m not right again,

39:13
you’ll be liable. Yeah, yup.

Speaker 7 39:17
Okay. This is the first I heard of them. I never seen one. Yeah? Well,

Speaker 3 39:20
the two we did was like five years ago, so then this one came up, and it didn’t have on air that it was because we’re looking at, how am I looking at each other? Who got the plaque, because it’s supposed to go to her or you, yeah, going into your address. Oh, yeah, right. So neither one ever did, so we call him. What are we doing with this one? Because I have no clue. Yeah, we’re not taking a hope. We don’t have a plaque to set in the concrete or pour and then they come from find out when he called the monument company. Oh, yeah, it’s four inches or four and a half, okay?

Speaker 1 39:55
And I think we should have it to where they. Have to be anchored, because people are now, we’ve had, I have Amazon. You can buy a headstone off of Amazon, and you get this headstone. There was one that was placed out there. There was already a foundation there. It was a little pad, and they put this little thing on there, and, well, that’s not good. It’s going to get moved. I mean, somebody going to walk off with it.

Speaker 5 40:23
Yeah, I haven’t seen any benches brought in this year so far. Nope. When

Speaker 1 40:28
do we want to go to the cemetery and replace the flags? Because Linda, have done, you’re done.

Speaker 5 40:35
Linda and I spent Mother’s Day together, Tom and Olivia. Also, we need the big

Speaker 4 40:49
flag with Tom down there. Then he went and got the little dump truck so all that crap would take off of the things from Christmas and everything. Yeah, someone teach you to teach you to throw it in the back

Speaker 5 41:03
of that big dumpster. So they were still here from clear idea, because that would have more than filled our little one. Oh, yeah. So we need to pair them,

Speaker 4 41:10
the whole dump truck full of dead weeds, dead everything.

Speaker 7 41:15
Well, we do Beth we go down and clean the cemetery at this time every year. Usually all of us don’t, but these two did it for ourselves just because. Yeah. Thank

Speaker 1 41:29
you very much. Oh, go ahead. We’re going back a little bit. No, I’m

Speaker 4 41:32
gonna go back to the cemetery. Our cemetery is disgusting. I’m sorry. What if we try to find somebody to go in there and clean it up before Memorial Day?

41:46
I have a grass

Speaker 4 41:48
I mean, that we walk through and weeds. And, I mean, I pulled so many weeds around the monuments and stuff that had flags going in, and could hardly even see the plaques that the flags went in. And

42:01
hours. Jason have hours. Nobody has hours. They’ve been down there so

Speaker 4 42:07
they don’t turn them into the beginning of next month.

Speaker 1 42:11
Okay, both dick and Jason and I’ve had telephone conversations with the both of them expressing my displeasure. I’ve had three phone calls from three different people, complaints about the cemetery.

Speaker 4 42:25
A resident tried to help out and mow an area and grunt, you they did it on their own. And I, you know. And he says it was so high that he was embarrassed by the cemetery, because he lives close to it. He went in and mowed himself. Dick had the viscosity to go down to his house and chew that man out. That was wrong. So I think we should try to find landscaping people that’s not really expensive because we don’t have a whole lot

42:54
of money. Well, that was

Speaker 4 42:58
to clean it up before somebody in here to clean it up before Memorial that would bite the bullet and get it cleaned up. There’s dead grass everywhere down

Speaker 1 43:06
there, and this is, this is the exact same reason why, like shalorsville, did what they did. They go around every head stubble with Roundup, and they just kill everything so they don’t have to, okay, but then, but

43:15
what about the grass that’s mowed that was too high, and

Speaker 1 43:19
I’ll make some No, you’re absolutely right. I am so frustrated with them.

Speaker 4 43:29
It’s been wet. It’s not a mulching mower, shouldn’t it? If he wouldn’t lower it so low to the ground and watch a little bit at a time, we wouldn’t have the mess that we he claimed

Speaker 1 43:40
to me that it’s on five, nope. And I told him, I can’t see that

43:44
on five three. Thompson. Three is

43:47
the normal, right? Normal is three. And

Speaker 3 43:49
all he has to do is leave the deck up. Don’t even lower. Just leave it up, take the top off and then go back over it again. You can accumulate ours. So what? How this will look good. Yeah. Well,

Speaker 4 44:00
yeah, if we have to end up bringing somebody in to clean up the cemetery, it’s going to cost us money, so we might as well mow it four times. Well,

Speaker 1 44:08
how about that? What would the board approve me to to spend, to have a landscaper to do that? Because we’re not going to have time by our next meeting for me to break prices. We

Speaker 6 44:22
are limited funds, but take time. And what do we need to do? Do

44:27
we run the mower?

Speaker 1 44:29
The lower I mean, I even called Chris King and I said, are you No? He said he’s still in Kentucky. He said he was up here two weeks ago and was going to go trim cemetery and ran out of time. So I

44:45
would know No, but I can’t

Speaker 4 44:46
run it. We had a girl that did all the mowing at cemetery, and, oh my gosh, she kept

Speaker 3 44:52
it wonderful, you know, somebody, that’s why I was trying to think of somebody that I could Ryan down here.

Speaker 1 44:59
He. Still has his landscape equipment. He told me the other day

Speaker 3 45:04
that has those beer but you see who’s moving now. That’s a that’s

Speaker 1 45:08
an argument between a renter and, oh, yeah. Oh, it’s a mess down there. And I do know several other people, okay,

Speaker 4 45:20
find out how much they would charge us. Is that. Does anybody else know of anybody that could go in? I’m not talking about all summer,

45:27
no, just to get it done.

Speaker 4 45:33
Yeah, I mean, I’ll make no Carly and would know Dania

45:41
long term. Driving,

Speaker 4 45:42
the

Speaker 1 45:47
only other thing I have is when the sheriff’s office is not a popular topic for the portage, when the sheriff’s office inmate crew came in to do roadside cleanup, the the corrections officer supervisor asked me, next year, if possible, weather permitting, we could at least mow our roadside. It makes it easier for them to see the trash and get the stuff out. And I told them that I would pass that on.

Speaker 3 46:15
We usually we’ll be doing it next week.

Speaker 1 46:19
Yeah. And I told him this week we couldn’t because of the weather, and he

Speaker 3 46:23
understood the grass isn’t that tall either. Plus, we’re limited to when we do that, just like the county does, because of the rabbits and stuff that are in the weeds. Yup, yeah. We wait till they have their whatever the

46:42
little body I saw on Holcomb. Oh,

Speaker 1 46:44
but, and that’s all I have. Does anybody else have anything for good in the order not? I’ll make a motion that we pay the bills. I’ll second

47:00
any questions.

Speaker 8 47:03
Let me. Let me just check my nose. I usually put a bunch of questions. Oh, pretty good with that.

47:10
Quick thumbs, yeah,

Speaker 8 47:11
um, I heard something about an event on Memorial Day. You mentioned, yeah, what Memorial

Speaker 5 47:16
Day Service, May 25 at one o’clock, yeah, Holly cemetery, and

47:25
that’s on the clinic. You said, what? We’re the clinicsburg road. That’s what? Holland cemetery,

Speaker 8 47:33
and that’s Holly, like, the plant that you the plant, J, W, L, E, y, h, okay.

47:40
Okay, gotcha. Okay,

47:44
here, I’ll get your address.

Speaker 7 47:48
It’s more than eight days. Yeah, yeah. Roger will call me too at the end of the month. I don’t think he’ll call me after this one, but Roger from the mortgage room.

Speaker 8 47:55
Do you know Roger? Oh yeah, I only work with Ben and Rachel.

47:59
Okay, Roger. He calls

Speaker 5 48:00
me. It’s at 5881, mcclintocksburg,

48:08
okay, cemetery, okay. I think that was about the only thing I missed out tomorrow. That’s contract.

Speaker 1 48:27
Yeah, they’re actually counseling employees and and it’s been for the past three weeks.

Speaker 10 48:32
Phone calls. Everybody’s going, everybody’s yards are back. They’re caught back up. Yeah, I’ve been calling, phone calling the monument.

Speaker 3 48:45
It’s just glory. Caught

49:01
me today. I gotta read with her.

Speaker 1 49:06
We got one. We bought them. I remember that say, Hey, what’s

49:16
breathing air system? This for fire. That is

49:21
fire. Okay with the there with guys from the fire department. Maybe they’d want to

49:30
kick in some time.

49:35
Yeah, we have to something needs to be

Speaker 9 49:42
done. I So

Speaker 10 49:55
Fred, what do rabbits do that you can’t move you? You have a

50:06
little book I can read, there’s foodie or

50:09
we’re not going there. I just don’t

50:14
understand that. One

50:20
I mean, Holly’s not that big.

Speaker 3 50:32
Yeah, the wee whipping would be the worst. Wee whipping around every stone. And then you gotta worry about everybody’s stuff. It’s right there too. Yeah,

Speaker 5 50:44
they can have stuff in one foot in front, nothing on the sides, nothing in the back, and only a 36 inch Shepherd hut that we pulled, three or four that were we don’t want the guys hooked off, but mower and pulled, so we pull them and put them here, and if they complain, They come again. These moves. The

Speaker 3 51:11
bad thing about spacing

51:29
it someone’s doing a job during ground lights. Audacious.

Speaker 9 51:42
Someone’s doing a job, or

51:54
that’s the last of the payment the bill like that. So

Speaker 10 52:02
that should be, Hey, bring a bike next time, so I can go for the ride. What’s that? Bring your bike next time?

52:10
Sure. I’ll, I’ll get some money from the appropriation everybody’s buying me flying lower they can afford a little motorcycle.

Speaker 3 52:17
Well, that wasn’t decided. Still in the making, yeah, go ahead and

52:23
crunch numbers.

Speaker 10 52:33
Well, most people are really nice in the Map Room, but I got in the car and it gave me 717 which was Dave best Myers corner. So I went back up, and then this lady that I heard was really mean, was so polite. She gave me mine for free. I’m thinking, Oh, do you not know I didn’t say

Speaker 6 52:55
that whatever you wanted to. I know Leslie quite well. Time,

53:05
finally got that boat in

53:19
the water, spent yesterday, today and

Speaker 4 53:23
today. Have you heard anything about Matt? Had talked to me about it

53:28
at carryover, yeah, I haven’t

Speaker 2 53:30
really heard anything that pertains to the trustees, per se, because I went the other day. He would know better. He deals with that more. I looked the other day because I heard some houses in the Senate, in the house pass the House. It’s

53:52
in the Senate, yeah, so it has to pass Senate. Senate still has it So, but, um, you know, at the time, I just knew about the schools, and it was a 31st

54:06
time carryover, but they hadn’t heard about,

Speaker 4 54:12
like the town that carry over for emergency. If we lost our carryover and we had an emergency,

54:17
we would be we really were.

Speaker 4 54:21
I try to carry over what we bring in for the year, so that if we did have an emergency, yeah, we would, and I don’t, I’m not always. Can’t see that exactly what we bring in for the year, but

54:31
I try your job,

54:40
like I said, I tried to look to see about the townships, but

54:47
I need to talk to Matt to see where he saw that,

54:53
because he was talking

54:54
to me about it one day.

54:59
Yeah. I don’t know what they’re talking about.

Speaker 2 55:11
But then you have to think about what their operations I don’t know what

Speaker 1 55:20
that percentage and we

55:27
try to

Speaker 4 55:29
afford things by saving and that’s what we do. Like right now, our road and bridge looks really good right now. We’ve got to pay for the rest of our that

55:39
we have now we have

Speaker 4 55:41
to replace it. To pay for that. So, yeah, it looks like we’re doing good, but, you know, right, saving, yeah,

Speaker 2 55:49
you would think that they would have something in there better, you know, for capital improvements. And I

55:55
will make a motion to adjourn. Doesn’t.