Mantua Township Trustees
May 1, 2025
6 p.m.
Mantua Township Town Hall
Attendance:
John Festa, Chairman
Matt Benner, Trustee
Julia Pemberton, Fiscal Officer
Meeting Summary:
The meeting began with the fiscal officer’s report, which discussed the possibility of obtaining an updated risk insurance policy. Additionally, health insurance costs increased by 32% over two years, but the township approved the renewal of their plan, deeming it the best overall choice.
The trustees approved the fiscal officer’s report.
The trustees then opened bids for road repairs from several companies and decided to approve Melway Paving’s bid of $208,130.17, as it was the lowest price. A citizen presented proposals for hard pool covers and updates to the agricultural sign policy. A hearing on both matters was set for May 22. The citizen also mentioned that the zoning book was not updated, and the trustees created a plan to update the book and upload it digitally.
The officials’ report included mentioning that the men’s bathroom in the town hall is broken, and that the town’s civic center is still waiting for bids for renovations. Other officials were absent and therefore had no report.
The Mantua Chamber of Commerce plans to award a $500 scholarship and allot $2,500 for township flowers and $250 for art. There will be another meeting on the 19th to discuss the open container policy and relaxing rules, allowing open containers in public at events after 7 p.m.
The trustees’ business consisted of mentioning how the heat repair for the Civic Center was still not complete. An official came to inspect the school building and deemed it unhabitable; the occupancy was receded and the elevator was not up to date.
Documenter Notes:
- Investigating supplying the township with risk management insurance
- Health insurance price increase of 32% within 2 years
- Accepted Melway Paving bid for repairing roads
- Melway Paving: $208,130.17 total bid
- Geauga Highway $221,479.67 total bid
- Discussion over zoning books not being updated
- Men’s room needs fixed in town hall
- Still waiting for Civic Center renovation bids
- Citizen presentation regarding agricultural signs
- Trustees allotted a hearing for citizen on May 22
Transcript
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Speaker 1 00:11
Okay, we need to approve the health insurance this evening, and you’re going
John Festa 00:21
to talk about the insurance later. No, issues later. No, talk about everything right off the bat. And what we’ll do is we’ll go to fiscal officer report we we said, legal about that. We were going to open the business. Oh, I said, Oh. I thought, Oh. Did it say that? So you want to make your this fall. Okay, so, lady, you can move up if you’d Like, okay, yeah, thank you. So thank you. I
01:20
open that next meeting, the health insurance increased about 14.94% from last year. Last year increased 19%
01:30
on so there’s still 14.94
Speaker 1 01:35
insurance company did put it out, and they didn’t receive anything that was better than what we
Speaker 2 01:40
had. So it’s like a 32% increase in two years. Thanks.
Speaker 3 01:57
All. I have been helpful. Okay? Do Okay, any
John Festa 02:06
questions, I’ll make a motion to approve the fiscal officer report
02:10
second. John, yes.
John Festa 02:22
Okay, so we’re going to open 2025 row projects. We have three.
Matthew Benner 02:33
This one is from Bel airway gaming company, 7571 state route, 83 holmesville, Ohio, 44633, 63
02:47
The name no way, David, 7571 state, rocket, city.
03:02
I company, please.
Speaker 2 03:42
No one. In company, please, no one I need to have M, E, L, W, A, y’all.
Matthew Benner 04:05
Okay, their total bid is $208,013.17
04:11
that’s $208,013.17
Speaker 2 04:31
Okay. Ronda, Ben Burton, Bucha box, 567, you. Alrighty. They are $229,689.40 229, 689, 45
05:45
and looks like they do Have anything they are supposed
05:55
to have, that’s right.
06:05
The next one is job highlight.
Speaker 2 06:12
They are 9215 state routes For real, three women. Oh. Okay, The price is 221,004 7967 $221,479.67 I John I
Matthew Benner 07:40
so I would like to make a motion that we tentatively issue. No way. Ben company, Corporation of holmesville, Ohio, award then the contract provided that the Portage County prosecutor’s office reviews these and approves everything that they have done. And it gets from there, it goes over to the Portage County engineers for review by Larry and Mike Collins, providing that they okay we award the contract to all the construction for
08:21
208,002 $108,013.17,
John Festa 08:26
any questions? 17 cents? Yes. Second motion, John, yes, ma’am, yes, yes. Engineers,
08:42
yeah, I think it’s right around that 200,000
Speaker 1 08:47
Yes, it’s seven minutes, yeah, 294 294 he was open. It was 294 Yeah, 294 Exactly, right? Four,
Matthew Benner 09:05
so we almost have the same thing that happened last year, but we’ll make sure that nothing got missed about the process. We’ll take into approval as submitted, and then providing the county and the county and the county
09:21
approved. 294,
09:25
173, you put specs out.
Speaker 4 09:27
You put specs out. We want this, and that’s what they’re building us. You’re just assuming that all three of those have met, quoted the same,
Matthew Benner 09:36
and that’s why we’ll be doing to make sure all the label documents are correct. That’s why it goes to the auditor or the county attorneys, and then it’ll go to a prosecutor’s office, I’m sorry, and then I voted there to Ben Ross’s local office, which is letter in my comments. They’ll review it make sure everything pervaded slag rather would have interest. So take it back and then, just so you guys don’t that has been several different ways. So you can take any road out that you want to take out, if, like, if I didn’t commit over our budget, then we have the right to take out different roads that they’ve been so
Carole Pollard 10:19
well, I’m curious about, have you dealt with this business before? Melanie?
10:25
Have not, but they have a lining.
Carole Pollard 10:27
It’s curious. I’m just curious about roniak and the wisdom business. They’re within dollars. And this one is is a lot lower. It’s just rather a straightforward
John Festa 10:51
there’s no revenue, no because I
Speaker 2 10:53
can tell you last year, but it happened last year, they were $130 130 or $140,000
11:00
cheaper, really, yes. And then
11:02
one year, somebody didn’t get it correctly, so you
11:05
couldn’t get
11:06
the lowest right correct, yep. Okay,
Carole Pollard 11:09
so did they get the bid last year?
Speaker 2 11:11
Yeah, so they were over $100,000 cheaper than anybody, okay, who was $100,000 cheaper?
11:20
Okay, who was $100,000
John Festa 11:24
cheaper? Wow. Okay, not only that, Ronnie. I just got the $500 bid from the COVID. They’re already here. You would think that they would be lower. They don’t have to bring their equipment back. I don’t get that, right,
Speaker 2 11:37
so, but I mean, there’s not saying they couldn’t miss something, because they may miss something, yeah?
Carole Pollard 11:40
Just curious. Really close, and
Matthew Benner 11:47
that’s why, you know, we just take it to the postures office. They approve it for all the liberal it goes over to Larry Jenkins.
John Festa 11:58
And again, in this business, got over until, yeah, that’s right, because these guys can just pop and say you want to understand, is there
Carole Pollard 12:12
anything in legal requirements or advice about accept that taking the best bid, as opposed to the lowest bid, lowest,
Speaker 2 12:21
that’s right, if they can’t, I’m not too high expect. Just, yeah, okay, and I’m not implying criticism.
Carole Pollard 12:30
I’m just, you know, just kind of Like in the world. So
John Festa 12:59
yeah, thank you. Ben Paul, okay, we can do back and just whatever you want
Carole Pollard 13:17
to say the salt, we have 300 for some summer.
13:29
Top Up in the 600 for
13:31
the 2526
Matthew Benner 13:31
year, there’s that pricing. No, they put it out. Yeah, they put it out to bid after they see how many time everybody wants. That’s how they get cheaper. So you need a motion,
13:40
yes, okay, I’ll make a motion, yes. Next one for
13:55
the health
14:00
insurance renewal.
14:02
Just 4% increase by Apple scaffolds. It was the best way that she could find, and when she we filled out those papers to go
John Festa 14:17
and do searches. I was surprised that she was admitted, because I got some questions on The reimbursement. There’s gotta be an easier way to do that. I mean, we’ve been, we’ve been struggling with this for for years,
Speaker 1 14:50
and and I don’t understand that’s all this company does is, you know, this work, right?
John Festa 15:00
Unfortunately, we have to have them due to IRS, okay? Well, I am not, I’m not on the plan anymore. So whatever will you okay With the increase? Yes,
15:33
yes,
15:40
yes, me tonight.
John Festa 16:11
Next, okay, well, we do have, well, you know what? Let’s have. Let’s have Lynn presented her stuff. Ben, then I’m going to do the officials report. Ben, go ahead.
Speaker 5 16:32
This is it’s time for you guys to have hearing text amendments that we worked on for good little while now, so it carries everybody’s packets. What I don’t know, and this would be approving a provision for hard tool covers, which is explained in there, I put a brochure that one of the people that was advocating for this had. It’s, I think last thing in mind and the other two were to modify agricultural sign regulations. It turns out that if you have a business that’s on 15 acres or more, the Zoning Commission can’t tell you what to do with your sign. If you’re on five acres or a small operation, they can. And so edit that out of our thing. So there’s we’re putting that in another place in the book, just so the pool covers are the main thing, and we went through it for months because I wasn’t familiar with these. None of us were. We had people come in that had them in audiology. We called lawyers for liability that was a concern, and ratify them. And then we get to the hearing, and one of the attendees of the Regional Planning Commission, even though in my letter to them, I said we did extensive research on this that I just And so they said, well, it’s all okay, except we’re going to table that one thing on the pool, COVID. Well, let’s shut down everything that I wanted to present until they did that. So Todd went through on his own. I said, here’s everything I did. You want to repeat it? Go ahead. So he did. And then they had their next meeting that three that made us have to have a second hearing, what was a continued hearing? And they approved it as is. So it’s not controversial, but if you’re not familiar with it, it could be because I was, I was worried about, you know, no offense, how’s this work? So it seems like they’re, it’s very expensive. I don’t think a lot of people are going to have the money to do this, but some people have already done it, so there’s personal Yeah, yeah. And we stipulated certain standards. In other words, you can’t go get a $50 cart and throw it over the pool. Right, right. Okay, so it’s, it’s mechanical. It’s the covering is a real sturdy like a Kevlar material. They say you could hold a dance on the cover and not collapse it, stuff like that. And there’s also, we also recommended what I would call a flash Lamont thing I didn’t know existed. And those are not expensive relative to this, and there’s different versions of them, but basically, they can hang, for example, they can hang on the edge of the pool. It’s electronic. And so if you’re. Dog jumps in the pool when your back is turned, it will work. Yeah, yeah. And I thought that’s, that’s a good thing everybody really, I have those on board. That’s a good safety feature. And some of those real, expensive homes that might have these, you can actually have a have it electronically transmitted into your house is part of your security system. So you know, you’re in another room and the splash alarm goes off. That shouldn’t be happening. So that’s what all that stuff is about. Good
John Festa 20:35
two questions, yeah. So these, so this the pool. The pool question is so these are not for, these are for in ground pools, correct?
20:49
Not, no, no. So, what
John Festa 20:52
are we? What are we? Are we requiring anything for and
20:57
above? Nothing different than what we have. We didn’t change anything else,
John Festa 21:00
just because most of our four foot high,
21:02
right? We modified that a couple last year.
John Festa 21:05
Number two, do we have so these we have one one, are we going to have two hearings, one for the pool covers and one
Speaker 5 21:13
for No, it’s all part of the same deal. Okay? So you need one hearing and the pool covers, and a text amendment,
John Festa 21:21
and we have 30 days to write,
Speaker 5 21:24
30 This is the official presentation. From there you go,
John Festa 21:31
30 days after we advertise.
Speaker 5 21:34
No, you gotta have, you gotta schedule your, your I’ll just make a note today.
John Festa 21:41
I know this, but
Speaker 5 21:44
I was gonna, I was gonna review it anyway. Okay, you can’t go more than 30 days from tonight to have your public hearing, so let’s, I’ll pick a day. Let’s say you did it on the 21st of May. That’s fine. But then 10 days before that, the ad has to go in, and we are still I know about House Bill that said, Put your hand on Facebook. That’s not good. In my opinion, nobody is doing that, from what I can see in the record career, and especially since people are not used to that, I think these ads still need to go and print journalism?
John Festa 22:21
Yeah, I’m just, I’m still on the fence with that for one day. Honestly, the record career doesn’t have
22:32
much of a subscription. I
John Festa 22:35
know No, but, I mean, I don’t know anybody that gets to deliver. I personally don’t know. I know. I mean, yeah, it’s just, there’s just no real subscription, so you’re really not, well,
22:52
it’s okay. The Facebook
John Festa 22:55
page reaches more people. It might, yeah,
Speaker 5 22:57
in addition to that, that’s okay, or the website, or whatever you want to
John Festa 23:02
do, absolutely,
Speaker 5 23:05
the legal stuff is still in the courier and we don’t have, you know when, when these deadlines come. We have to pay attention to it, because if somebody says, Oh yeah, I’ll put it on Facebook, and they never do it, and I don’t know it, then we’re screwed up,
Speaker 2 23:22
right? So let’s go ahead and pick the date, uh, 21st verse. For me, I
23:27
just made
23:29
that. Let’s so the 21st
Speaker 5 23:33
Monday night. Well, well, we who’s getting because 20th you probably Marcy or the 20th.
John Festa 23:43
What are you guys here? At first, first Monday, oh, sorry,
23:50
second and fourth,
23:52
so the 12th and the 2026,
Speaker 5 23:56
maybe the 19th, unless the BCA has some or the 20 20th. How
John Festa 24:08
about I want to make sure, make sure that we do this right? Yeah, so I have
24:15
to add in 10 days
24:17
prior to the 22nd right, the 12.
Speaker 5 24:21
And you gotta, you gotta give him a little leeway, because you don’t want to get an answer like, We’re sorry, we’re we’re all filled up, you know, yeah, when
John Festa 24:31
it has to be in 10 days before 10 days, right? At
Speaker 5 24:36
10 days, right? But you don’t want to call the morning of the tent, you know, say we can’t.
24:44
It could go in tomorrow. Oh
Speaker 5 24:48
yeah, it can go in the city. Julie wants to do it on a Monday, right? And we always say, Please don’t run it on a Monday, because there’s no print time.
John Festa 25:00
That’s another thing I hear on the mercy of the Lord, publishers can really ask
25:04
you, yes, they can,
John Festa 25:09
and you have to actually take a screenshot. Well,
Speaker 5 25:15
I’m not in charge, so I do want to do that. That’s fine, but I would still we’ll do it for this year. Yeah, because if you look, if you look at the like today, I always look see what’s going on, there’s, you know, Kent’s doing all this, you know, just like, for contracts and all that kind of stuff. It’s all in print. Other zoning boards are also all in front too. Okay, so did you pick a day we did? Okay.
26:00
We didn’t have anybody in either of the phone hearings on
John Festa 26:05
this so we had two meetings this month, right,
26:08
right? It should probably be a smooth
Speaker 6 26:12
deal, alright? I think we said 6pm 522, okay.
26:16
Witnesses. I is,
John Festa 26:23
yeah, we have lots of people. Okay,
Speaker 5 26:25
now I have one other thing I want to run by, not related to this. When I was getting the paperwork together with usually I just pull out my book when I want to look at something. I have my regular zoning book. But for some reason, I went online to our website to look at something related to this, and it hasn’t been updated in three years or two years, so all the zoning chains that have been approved and recorded aren’t on our website, just like the pool like that’s what caught my eye. Pool light Ben still says 60. So I I’m not charged with that. I don’t know.
John Festa 27:07
I can ask you questions. So is your book up to
27:12
that? You bet you give me a copy
John Festa 27:13
of it. You got a copy
27:18
of it. I can’t do every page
John Festa 27:22
if you give me the whole book, well, here’s the problem, because I can’t put it in there, because it’s a PDF that I can’t split with.
27:34
We can scan the whole book and it’s one
Speaker 5 27:35
document. Well, here’s the here’s the thing, here’s the problem. Aside from that, when Jason was still in office, we everybody had decided that when you make a change in the zoning book that won’t fit on the page, it it forces things to go to the next page, and all the page numbers are kaput. That’s expensive to read print books. So what they did, and Jason was putting on something that was like 10 pages long at the time. He says, I can’t get this on this way. And we said, well, I don’t know how to do it. You know? What do we do? So I think he worked with somebody approved in a planning and what is on our website is all the pages apply only to that section, so that you’re not changing 200 builder pages. And it makes sense, and it looks nice, and it’s easy to make a modification, but I don’t know how they did it. I don’t have a disk. I don’t know who they worked with, so having a copy of my book won’t
John Festa 28:51
help you. Actually, we actually don’t even have a book that’s up to date. Our book is
Speaker 5 28:57
up to date. It is it is Rich’s book is up to date. And if you guys update your books, when you get
John Festa 29:05
your book, you just take that page and pull
Speaker 5 29:08
out three holes in it and stick it in, that’s right, and I save the old pages. I Yeah. I don’t know what the answer is, but this is an issue. It is
John Festa 29:21
an issue because you said it’s expensive. But if, if someone reads something different and takes it to court
29:29
exactly, and I don’t,
John Festa 29:30
I don’t know what to recommend, that maybe Regional Planning
Speaker 5 29:32
could do this for us. Let me get Rich’s book, and we’ll have somebody look at and say, how do you get the whole
Speaker 1 29:40
and we’ll have somebody look at and say, how do you get the whole thing out there? Like
John Festa 29:43
she’s, yeah, we have to make sure that we have, we have a, you know, a concise book on everything. That’s because, you know, the smart bank, you really use that
Speaker 5 29:55
against us. Well, the stuff that you have on there is just. Not updated, I am. So there’s three or four things that we’ve had since, I think it said last updated in 2023, so it’s not up to date. No, I did that. Yeah,
John Festa 30:09
there’s a lot of things. There’s a lot of things, but zoning book is very
Speaker 5 30:16
important to make sure it is. Yeah, the zoning book, the hard copy, is up to date, but it’s not printed in the same format as what is online. I can tell you that exactly, but just not often. It’s more. There’s several things.
John Festa 30:36
Why don’t you send us all out of email and what we need?
30:41
Okay, but I don’t know what you need to do. I mean,
John Festa 30:44
you know, like, what do we need to update? You have
Speaker 5 30:47
to let, oh, I can give you what needs to be updated. Okay, yeah, I will do that. Yeah, I would say it’s three or four things. I have. No idea how to do it, and I don’t know when Jason accomplished this. It used to be when we did this, I would get a disc, and they’d say, Okay, here’s the latest, here’s the latest. And then that all just should be on this. Rebecca, yeah, it should, yeah.
31:22
I mean the truth, we just
Speaker 5 31:25
and once we get that up to date, I’d like to have all the books match what’s online as far as the format goes, so that then when we do have another amendment, then once again, we just copy several pages that were done
John Festa 31:46
instead of, yeah, this was in a Word document. If that, if that was in a Word document, we can, we can am manipulated to get those pages in there, but once, instead of being out there, I
32:01
don’t know what it is, maybe, maybe Jason would recall how
John Festa 32:05
they accomplished it, or,
32:11
I think they did, I
John Festa 32:16
don’t know. So, as you know, House Bill 315 is not law, and there is enforcement that is different. Oh, right. So now it is a court action, revived action, check it, go and look to House Bill 315 because I’m afraid that we may have to do a lot of changes.
32:46
Has always been an option
John Festa 32:49
we could have. We could have the sheriff come over here through the
32:54
violation multitude of
John Festa 32:56
things. Yeah, so the zoning inspector doesn’t have to do that. Oh, so I wanted you to look at that and or ask you to look at that and, okay, if you have a question, what you need to do is context prosecutor
Speaker 5 33:11
who’s handling zooming down because I thought we’d get there was a
33:21
new person, but I the
Speaker 5 33:27
new person. Don’t even know their name. Rep still there. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay.
Mark Hall 33:37
I recall when I first started off, Todd peace was compiling the resolution, providing the discs to the CD. And then, so you might touch base with him, because I know at one time he actually provided, I believe, individual chapters. And on the website, you could go to individual chapters as such, or complete
34:00
book, which is
Mark Hall 34:02
sort of redundant, but he might have the tools, because if he can separate it out by chapters, when a change occurs, he can update the record for that chapter, and then He creates a file with Chapter One through chapter 99 which then brings in all the new information, since each chapter has its own right running set pages and then provide you a disc with that, and you’re going to patron so you might check with Todd Pete’s stuff
Speaker 5 34:37
from that you do stuff from that? Yeah, I have a box. Maybe rich got one, and I’m not aware of it. We have a box of discs, yeah, all together.
34:50
So we can go,
Speaker 5 34:54
Okay, well, like, I guess I’ll start looking into that. I don’t know if there’s a charge or anything for that. Possible. We should have hours,
35:04
yeah, we should
35:08
have hours, no, just for stuff like this, yeah, no,
John Festa 35:10
we’re good, yeah, okay, thank you. We’ll get this in time. Thanks. I Okay, we’ll go to official reports before we start cemetery. Do you have a report for us?
Speaker 7 35:39
The school’s starting to slow down a little bit. Wednesdays and Thursdays are done. Still got somebody in there, Mondays and Tuesdays, and got something in there for the next five Saturdays. So rentals are still going pretty good. I see the warmers in there, so
Speaker 8 35:58
thank God they’ve got Yeah, I
Speaker 7 36:03
the girl that tomorrow night for ponytail. She asked if she could use it. I’m like, sure I gave her the directions. I’m like, I don’t know nothing about it, so
John Festa 36:15
I guess you said the temperature. See what happens.
Mark Hall 36:21
Definitely. Had a little bit feedback that the warming of them had arrived over there. I’m assuming it’s underneath the fan dome. Yes, there that part of the feedback that I received is said to turn the temperature knob all the way up the
36:42
gifs with GIF out
Mark Hall 36:43
so you have to slowly increment that. And the suggestion, I believe, was from Ben is look at your beast for a brown fall
36:59
interrupting a lower
Speaker 8 37:02
you. We’re
Matthew Benner 37:08
doing this, turning it on to like medium, let them heat up a little bit, and then they can turn it all the way up
Mark Hall 37:17
and be fine. Let’s just be this is the ground fault interrupt socket. That was where they pop in the circuit breaker.
Matthew Benner 37:24
They were popping the ground fault, ground fault, well, breaker in the panel was not popping, okay, so we don’t
37:30
have access. His phone was designed
Speaker 2 37:32
to do okay. It was popping the GFI, not the breaker in the back
Speaker 8 37:38
room. I don’t want to spend too much time. Excuse me. Brian said he started at three, you bet three for a minute, but warm up pain,
37:45
yeah, but started, yeah, good.
John Festa 37:48
You know, electrician that can take a look at, yeah, Mike will do
Speaker 7 37:55
that. Then just turn it up right back. Okay.
John Festa 38:02
And so one last thing is we need to get the one thing fixed in the measure,
38:07
yep, or if
John Festa 38:10
you’re right, so we’ll get a chance. It fixed. Yeah, we’ll get it fixed. Okay, anything else, I mean, because I’ll tell you what we can, we can talk a little bit about the Civic Center. Thank you. Len, yeah, the civic center is, we are still waiting for bids. We have a bid already, but we can’t do anything. We think you may just have to go out for public
38:53
bid. It’s going to be over 75,000
John Festa 38:56
so we’re not sure. We’re still not sure what the insurance company is going to pay for, either they’re going to pay for ho branded for or they’re only going to pay for Sandy and finishing. So,
Speaker 7 39:13
yeah, I had one more run on there on July 20 or something. I called her last week and I’m like, Yeah, I don’t think it’s going to be done. Is it already? I switched to the gym, and she said, Sure, so, so other so nobody’s in there from now until it’s done.
John Festa 39:30
So I Yeah, and I would, I would say, I would say, it’ll be much. Yeah. Okay. Anything else? No, thank you, sir, okay, Richard, no, um, did tell me she’s been under the weather. That’s why she did that. I. Um, I thought the Ben was supposed to come today, but they did. Chambers here, Carol,
Carole Pollard 40:09
okay, well, the last chamber meeting was on 23rd of April. Farms started. I’ll just go through a little bit with the sequence that we have the meeting. Randy reported that we have four scholarship applicants. There are three evaluators go through that, and I don’t remember how much the scholarships are for. So I didn’t take a note of that. The chamber garage sale is June 34 also the chamber is who makes some sponsorships. One is to the triple trail fest for $250 one is for $250 for art on the hill, and then one for $2,500 for flowers in the village. And that includes the watering. They have to be watered seven days a week, which may explain why, anything I don’t know, my course, died within about three days. So, and that’s been a topic of some debate between DMRC and the village and chamber and everything. You know, they look wonderful, but it really takes some effort, yeah, to keep them up. And if the village service department does it. They have to do it on weekends, and that means more pay. So I think maybe that’s been sorted out. Okay? And there, there is discussion about what’s called a Dora, which is designated outdoor refreshment area, I think. And I think what they’re going to, what they’re talking about, is having that you could even have an open container outside and walk around with it, but it still has to do it in a certain area. They’ve got that worked out in three months, and that there will be a meeting about that on the 19th, 7pm at our 44 so that okay, and then this is a, I would think this would be a particular interest to the trustees. There will be, like a government entity, political update locally, and that is for the village, manway Township and shaversville. And you know something, I had to take a note about where it will be. It may be in the chalmersville township Hall. It may be, but that’s on the 29th and I think probably people would be interested in hearing, you know, from from the three local entities. Okay? And there’s some work on signage and that sort of thing. It’s, it’s in process. Next meeting, I’ll probably have something to say about that. Okay, the topic of the meeting was supposed to be agri, agro, agri tourism. And the person who’s who was going to do that as a presenter who’s heavily involved with that was called away for something so Randy, kind of waited and what, one of the things he said was that when farms, not everybody wants to farm anymore. You know, kids have other things in mind. And so what the there’s really heartbreaking song talk song about the farmers made enough money selling the farm to die on, so that there are three options up until the fourth one. I fourth one. One is still to residential developer, which is what Tim Gould had to do. One is commercial development, and that’s what used to be resorts. So that’s more pavement than there is land anymore, it seems. And then another one is the village. And then another one is the donating the property to the parks. And so people have done that, but you know, the people who are staging and own the land may not be able to afford to do that. So option four is the. Anti tourism, if you can work that out. And as it turns out, good Olds Jay is doing okay. What? I didn’t realize that everybody knows about the maple syrup operation, because you see, you know, you see the little jugs and everything in various stores, but there’s the maple syrup operation. Takes 100 acres sale, 100 acre one lot, 5000 taps on the trees. It’s a lot of taps. We used to do it in buckets. Nobody does that anymore. It’s all too big with vacuum pumps that take it into a huge tank. The other 400 acres of that farm are, it’s a dairy operation. And I asked the last I knew was Holsteins, and I asked about that. And I think Nathaniel, J’s son is the one who’s interested in the farm still. And he said they use jerseys Normandy Normandy cattle and Norwegian reds. And the jerseys are beautiful, small cows, the Normandy, the Normandy and the Norwegian reds are basically more or less red, and they’re spotted, not like they’re spotted. Let’s I’m not going to try to describe how they’re spotted. They do well on grass, and this is interesting. The the farm is certified organic, and they are shipping their milk to Organic Valley. And I attended the workshop, it was a number of years ago about Organic Valley, and it seems to be a really classy operation. So that was all stuff. I didn’t know it was interesting. The Maple Syrup operation, they do 1800 gallons of syrup a year, which is a huge amount. And I think it takes 50 gallons of sap to produce a gallon of syrup. And how they do that is there’s a huge holding tank in the side building. There’s a brand new building on pep Road, white, red stacks coming up through the roof. And you think, what is it? Well, that’s where they are. And this is side like a lead to, sort of a lead to where the sap comes and then it goes into three reverse osmosis tanks, and that process removes a lot of the water, and so that means that the evaporation process takes less time. That was was really impressive. You know, it’s just not like, I don’t think even the Amish are doing buckets anymore. So it was, it was, it was a really
Speaker 2 48:22
informative evening. Carol, did this? Do you know how many working
Carole Pollard 48:31
dairy farms? I don’t know.
Speaker 7 48:35
I know the answer that there was two roofers and algers 44 and then al just one out 31 and that’s
48:48
three points. Yeah, they ship to organic. Oh,
48:51
so they do ship, but, I mean, they don’t have a number of cows that I
Speaker 7 48:55
don’t know how many cows in numbers, that’s it. Oh, well, if you have any cows, you know, 25 because you got cans, yeah, well, he didn’t get into the rotation.
Carole Pollard 49:13
And I don’t know whether they’re doing it seasonally. If they’re doing it seasonally, they didn’t want once, couldn’t they? No, okay, well at once, couldn’t they? No, okay, well, that makes it look you know, I haven’t been really on the farm, this farm, for 50 years, okay? Three
49:36
generations remitted now
Carole Pollard 49:39
from farmers. Yeah, yeah. And those have been there for 200 years too. So you know, what they’ve done is just about what you guys have done. They’ve been diversified
49:49
on the way comes alive. Yeah?
49:51
You say wolf runners down in Suffield? Yeah,
John Festa 49:53
I
Speaker 7 49:55
forget how much they know. It’s like three 400 cows or something, three. Ben,
50:01
yeah, and then up
Carole Pollard 50:06
on, on Chamberlain, maybe after it becomes a month, there’s Timmons and that, that just, that just looks brutal. I got, I got a
John Festa 50:17
question, yeah, real quick before, real quick before. So what’s up with this? What’s up with this? Walking around, drinking, oh, I want to know. I gotta go. What’s inside. So, is this like every day, or is it like, see seasonal they can have anywhere.
Matthew Benner 50:52
What they did out in front of the meat shop and the bar. Yeah, that was designed for that. So there’s out there on Main Street to start walking around. I think it’s got this big
John Festa 51:15
area, all right. I just want to straight schools, any questions, then we’ll do it for officials, Trustee business. So we have, we have a risk insurance policy that we need to look at. We have until June 6 to change. They just change? I see
52:05
so there’s some stuff in it
John Festa 52:09
that we probably need. For one thing, I came across this paragraph here. Olga offers bonds for Alexis and appointed officials up to a limit of $10,000 at no additional cost. So we may have a few people that take money in them you may have to find. And so a port of tarmon does not charge us for that Julie, Julie is off his pace for her bond. It’s a lot different than our bond, right?
52:51
This is just a max of 10,000
John Festa 52:52
so, so Julie is going to look at that for us,
Speaker 1 53:00
and for what we’re reading, it looks like Bill, you know, for zoning. So anybody takes any cash,
John Festa 53:09
I think that’s what it is under Section Five Equipment Breakdown, our our power generating equipment is excluded.
53:30
This is our church. No, I know as far as
John Festa 53:34
we have, yeah, but so someone goes back there you know. So we need to talk to Mark about that. And then further down in the page, there’s another heading, new generation, $10,000 limit. I don’t even know what that we may have. You may have to look
54:03
at it basically. So
Speaker 1 54:10
that’s why, Where’s the other one? Well, they added in our assets. They just didn’t have it under the
John Festa 54:17
Equipment Breakdown. They’re not going to pay Yeah, I But where is it in the where is it in the policy? Well, we don’t have to learn that Matt, they have schooling, building, insured for only 200-200-4000
54:49
off of what we paid for COVID.
John Festa 54:52
Okay, there’s a, there’s a section here that we can we can increase, we can increase the. So that’s what I found. So do you want to prove this, or do you want to wait until everybody takes a look? Oh yeah, they still have the case. Many in here. They don’t have the they don’t have the category. I asked
55:31
for the update, okay, yeah,
55:32
where
55:34
did okay? I
55:40
summer, okay, yeah,
John Festa 55:49
I’ll follow up on that. I think our next meeting,
55:55
well, we can do it on the fun check.
John Festa 56:01
So I you. We
56:14
included.
John Festa 56:26
Maybe I don’t know. No, we that’s he was, he was thinking replications that we said, okay, okay, alright, yeah,
56:36
cuz we renew this in June. I it.
John Festa 56:45
Next week, civic center. We went through the the sewer project. I talked to Jim shales from great work. He’s the country. He says that he’s already except he has a problem with Orange County Water Resources. Surprise, surprise. So, so he’s got there, it’s, they’re, they’re just, it’s just semantics. They’re almost ready to go. So all that is directional boring. There is no
57:30
there’s no open anything.
John Festa 57:33
So, so that’s so he’s ready to go on that, and I don’t think that’s we had a big conversation.
57:43
So what actually is
John Festa 57:46
Portage County giving them a hard time on the size of the plate. Okay, that’s easy. Yeah, it’s a really easy thing. So that’s, that’s what we got going on school a roof is complete. Very nice job. Thank you, Terry, are you okay? Very, very nice job. Very, very good.
58:20
Did you by chance have to Ben quotes
John Festa 58:27
for that? Yeah, we had two
58:32
bars.
Speaker 9 58:40
Okay, 93 something
58:47
on house, barn for 16,
John Festa 58:51
seven, okay, yeah, so we did. We had barns.
Speaker 2 58:56
Yeah, so to bring the difference today, missing Terry, did you miss anything to take?
Speaker 4 59:03
I don’t rank up Mexicans. I have three hours with me more, but they’ve done the same now. They just take more money. Is profit? Okay? I wish I made one. Terry, still,
John Festa 59:25
yeah, so Terry still, we’ll let him go. We’ve got, he’s got to take down the antenna.
Speaker 4 59:49
Yeah, and pick up all the pick up all the nails. Yeah, pick up all the nails.
59:54
Remember the difference between the two bits?
Speaker 4 59:59
Yeah. Use. Do you always go back right? Even though they pick up Ben line, you go back a week or two later after the rain? Yeah, he’s going to break it everything, right?
John Festa 1:00:14
So good. Good job. Thank you. Terry did a nice shot and run the chimney. I noticed this was not as good as
Speaker 4 1:00:24
well. He said, on the chimney, if you look at the very back, it pulled down about an inch. Remember we heard him drilling? Yeah, he was he said it was kind of lapsing. He said that the brick was all falling off the pieces near the bottom. He said, so he had to drill it in on the bottom where it really was falling apart. It pulled down over. He goes, but it’s not gonna leave. Yeah, he said. So he made it higher for that reason. So with the brick deterioration, you make it higher.
John Festa 1:00:57
Very good. So I so the new heat, heat, cable and thermostat and gun repair for the civic center is not complete. His his contract said that he was going to put heat cable, not only on gutter, but also on the roof. But then again, I
1:01:36
read it again. But regards to that, it needs to be done. So I’m going to call it as I’m saying,
John Festa 1:01:49
Julian, know that not just not to send we want to pay okay. It. How great. So we had a nice donation. I heard so great. So great funeral home now under motion. And when Dave was there, he had, of course, he had the Cowen berry on the right in South water. Yeah, right on the right, the whole cow, very solid, five different things where he would show people like a bench, right? So I guess Dan was up there doing some some work like he does work like, of course, he has his own little business there. And so let me read the letter that they said. So some annaway township trustees. Just recently, Kathy hurt was talking to Danny Kaczynski about the Colin barium that the township was interested in buying, which I did have an interest in. Kathy had told Danny that we were trying to get rid of ours, and asked him, oh, that’s what was interested in buying our own COVID. Is what I was talking Kathy had told Danny that we’re trying to get rid of ours, and ask him if the township would be interested. Jason Jardine, owner of greens funeral care was notified, and he confirmed that he would donate it to the west Lawn Cemetery on the following condition that the township was moved the building and assumed all expenses to build with the building. He’s referring to the COVID. The building could be moved as soon as they want. And if you have any questions, you can call April or Kathy at funeral, or Kathy on her cell phone. Please let us know there’s very much, very nice. That is a that is a 40 in a minute 40 unit. It’s it’s dark, it’s black. And if you purchase the other two colibris Like a little other two COVID I would think it would be a good a good thing if we were to accept this and let greens know that We would be willing to give them a couple of spots, if they have someone that’s kind of low on their funds, that they can dominate a couple of those spots. What? Who would move? That we would
1:04:57
move that,
John Festa 1:04:59
no, we got. We would have done so, I would suspect that that Colin Mary was probably in the range of 15 to $18,000 maybe even more, and we can offer those
Speaker 9 1:05:19
for this time we respond to in there.
John Festa 1:05:27
They’re not allowed, they’re not allowed to intern anybody into there was some years ago, or IO, I built them. We put some in there. There’s nobody,
1:05:38
and he wants to move them. They’ll
1:05:42
come. There’s nobody.
1:05:49
But that was nice. Yeah, that’s right,
John Festa 1:05:57
Matt, we have a little bit of work to do on the pavilion I
1:06:12
was reading,
John Festa 1:06:13
yeah, I don’t think it’s no
Matthew Benner 1:06:16
because anytime, and that’s what that site plan is all About. You can’t get a zoning command without site plan. That’s all he’s asking, right? So that’s just telling me what the site plans are and what happened, where it’s always going, right?
John Festa 1:06:29
And then. So it’s not only that we think they want, they don’t think we should go to the A used to,
1:06:39
yeah, they got to fight that one out. I don’t know,
John Festa 1:06:40
yeah, because, no, that would be on us, because it says a use group requires more additional items. Do you group would be? It would be utility? Yeah, you could, I don’t know. Are we planning to put electric in there,
1:07:01
not at this time going the election, would probably
John Festa 1:07:05
live, right? Sure. So for their
Matthew Benner 1:07:07
purpose, though, John, it’s just a COVID with nothing in there.
John Festa 1:07:12
Yeah, we can always check it correct. I think the only thing that they need to do is they’re talking about multiple contributions, conflicts exist in the submitted drawings. Update All notes to core to coordinate all dimensions, comments specifications as applicable, use standard lumber sizes and convention as appropriate. And then the other one that I think that I would have to go back to them, would be the specified designs loading both positive and negative for the structure and verify that’s on all structural Yeah, that’s on the connections and facets established
Speaker 2 1:08:00
designs. So when you went down to get your connection, did you take three second punch with you?
John Festa 1:08:10
I did. You can’t have to do it all. I said, everything we had. So they have, yeah, but they rejected. I know I see that, but yeah, so
Speaker 4 1:08:22
is the county actually reviewing those oversight Yes, it gives us what the church is doing for a billion you go to the County, the county actually isn’t doing it. They’re hiring a third party to review those fronts, and they’re going through exactly the same thing. They got some water on the other that’s not doesn’t know what they’re doing, and they’re not, which
1:08:43
was Church, the one man with losing,
Speaker 4 1:08:46
oh, yeah, they’re wanting to put a pavilion. In fact, they’ve been, they’ve been working on getting permit since last October, no, and they’ve been getting rejected, rejected for just the same crap. Yeah, the JC was investigating it, because he’s the one that’s tiny running it, and he’s what he’s gathering is the Porter County subcontracts at, like, a third party, and also some of their work. Yeah, they’re just so much going on. They’re not really reviewing everything, and they’re not really reading the prints, because a lot of stuff’s there. Yeah, they’re missing. Well,
1:09:22
I know we back again. A site plan we’re
1:09:26
working on, okay,
John Festa 1:09:29
no, I did not write on that. That’s fine. I did. I did not and, and the site plan is, and what there’s only, it’s some, it’s not, it’s not rocket science, because it’s a big over there, right? But you have to, you have to put, we have to go over there and specifically measure
1:09:48
it out, measure everything. Yeah, we can do.
John Festa 1:09:53
But for your information, I know they were due. Said they’ve been doing this a couple of years for the pavilion that they’re trying to go no since last October. Okay, so now they’re making everybody do this stuff online. I don’t know where they. Father came up with this and that maybe why? Yeah, so this one was done, yeah, so this one was done. So they have this guy that was William Ross. He is the new building. He’s He’s Park building official and master plans exam, and he’s the guy that’s doing the playing, computer board, county share, yes, and we got some, got some stuff we’re going to talk about that. Yes, this is going to be something that’s going to everybody so, yeah. So he’s the master and master plan together, and so he’s called, should he? He the code is doing it for official until, I think you’ll find down the road, he’s gonna be the chief Randy’s retired. He retired twice, and they call him back. So I think this,
1:11:17
this person, this
Speaker 9 1:11:19
William, doesn’t have enough hours as a chief building official to get information for that part. So this is a process like an intern and an offshore a painful,
Matthew Benner 1:11:34
well, we can do that. John, like I said, we’ll lay that out. Yeah, we’ll give us something certificate, and then we’ll go down and do this again, because you can still go to the office, or at least you I was there two months ago, so you can usually go get
1:11:50
what you want to go to the office. So they’re still having Right, yeah, okay, yeah. And they got a computer there for people that
1:11:58
want, right? I us.
1:12:04
Trust me, I enjoy this.
John Festa 1:12:07
So that’s what we got. So last month, I was telling everybody about the new annex have to pick on permit. So they gave us the permit for a Senate 299 people. United
1:12:43
for the animals for the annex.
John Festa 1:12:48
What they also did is they, yeah, this one board is too negative. Wow. But what they did in the process, and the reason that I didn’t mention it last time, is because we were, we couldn’t believe what we read, and we were trying to get over the COVID, get some additional information. What they did is they rescind the occupancy permit
1:13:25
for the school building.
John Festa 1:13:28
And not only did they, not only did they rescind that, they rescinded the certificate of completion for the elevator. So now they deem the school building as uninhabited, lock the doors, so we call them and we try to get some information, and we’re not getting we’re not getting any kind of feedback, so I want
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to read Okay?
